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Dear Supernatural,

I want to marry you and have like a billion babies. You make me so happy that I'd even write my own vows and TONS of "roses are red, violets are blue...oh supernatural, you rock...and I really love you" poems.

Love,

Tommygirl

**

Having just finished two books in the past week, I started Incendiary today during lunch, but I had to put it down. It's an interesting premise, but the author's lack of punctuation as a literary device/style is KILLING ME! I kept stopping every few lines and wondering where the hell my comma or period were. It's not a book for a grammar nazi like myself - it nearly gave me a heart attack until I put it down and decided to read something else.

And this is why I always carry two books around with me - because if one tries to kill me, I can read another.

**

I have so much writing to do and no energy with which to do it. That's a sad thing.

**

Finally, because it seems to show up quite often in various journals regarding different fandoms, I keep thinking about the use of livejournal and if a writer does need to censor/plan out what they write in order to appease their friends list/audience. I can understand how it might be sad or frustrating to reader A, who loves writer B's Gilmore girls fic, only to discover that now writer B is obsessed with Firefly instead. However, I can't get behind the idea that the readers' demands be heeded. That's right. I'm taking the John Wells' method of creating - don't give the fans what they want.

Though I don't really like to think of it like that. My feeling is that a journal or website is a person's own world to play with as they see fit. Humans can be fickle and change and be easily swayed by new pretty. It's the way things are and to waste time getting upset with someone for being a "fan" or squeeing/ranting over something that doesn't interest you, seems ridiculous to me.

I mean, there are people on my friends list that I adore that like to go on about SG-1. I have no clue what they're talking about, but rather than whining that they talk too much about it, I simply scroll on past the entry onto another one.

Maybe it all goes into some users' idea that a friends list is just that - friends - whereas, for the most part, mine is a reading list. If my reading habits change and differ from my current roster of journals, then I'm likely to remove that journal. It's not something personal. It's because everyone has the right to babble on about whatever s/he wants to and it's up to me whether I join you in your squee or ignore it.

There is no logical reason to try to sway your friends list by not-so-subtle whining in your journal about the overabundance of information on a show. Just get over it and move on. read someone else's journal instead, friend new people who still share your loves. It's just a position I can't support.

Date: 2005-10-13 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teenylynne.livejournal.com
YES. Someone else on the trusty friends list who shares the Supernatural love. :)

Tuesday's episode scared the shit out of me. LOL.

Date: 2005-10-13 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Fortunately, it didn't scare me - the only one that really creeped me out was the scene in the premiere with the guy/thing standing over the baby's crib. Freaky.

But oh yeah, I tend to go on and on and ON about Dean and Sam and have started fic on it!

Date: 2005-10-13 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Yes, I owe Helen a brothers fic in return for the fab icons she made me. So I was working on that today and might finish it up tomorrow if things go okay.

Date: 2005-10-13 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsinger.livejournal.com
Excellent. ;)

Date: 2005-10-13 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pathstotread.livejournal.com
There is no logical reason to try to sway your friends list by not-so-subtle whining in your journal about the overabundance of information on a show.

Not enough "word" in the world.

I hate feeling like I can't squee about BSG or Firefly or whatever without annoying people on my flist who have no interest in that. Because you know what, it is my journal, and they can choose to read it or not. Likewise, if I'm not feeling Gilmore Girls, I'm not gonna write about it even though the majority of my flist is still all about it.

So, yes, I completely agree. :)

Date: 2005-10-13 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's just a really weird trend that I've noticed lately. I share a lot of fandom love with most of my friends list, but there are times we're squeeing over different shows at different times. Does me no bother. And especially with something like Firefly/Serenity at the moment? You gotta expect an influx of babbling on that, just like when January rolls around the BSG squee will be abundant. Heh.

Date: 2005-10-13 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julissak01.livejournal.com
There is no logical reason to try to sway your friends list by not-so-subtle whining in your journal about the overabundance of information on a show. Just get over it and move on. read someone else's journal instead, friend new people who still share your loves. It's just a position I can't support.

*high-fives you*

I've noticed how it's become an issue lately, and really, it shouldn't be. It's your list, friend/defriend/move to newer pastures at your will. You shouldn't incorporate yourself into something when you aren't inclined to. It's very simple.

Date: 2005-10-13 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
::high fives back::

Yes, just when I think I can't be surprised, people find new ways to do it.

Date: 2005-10-13 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahaliem.livejournal.com
May I introduce you to [livejournal.com profile] violetsmiles. She loves Supernatural, too.

Date: 2005-10-13 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Most definitely! I love new friends, especially those that share the squee for those Winchester brothers.

Date: 2005-10-13 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piyo-halliwell.livejournal.com
I kinda like having friends who are interested in other things. I may not be able to squee over the said fandoms, but their interest could spark an interest in me. Many of my personal friends can't stand some of the things I love, but it doesn't bother me. My journal is for me and whether you scroll by it or read it and understand nothing, it's there. I'm not not going to be just because someone doesn't enjoy what I enjoy.

Date: 2005-10-13 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nam-jai.livejournal.com
I may not be able to squee over the said fandoms, but their interest could spark an interest in me.

Exactly. Be open to other interests, people! Squeeing fans on my friends list started me watching House, for which I am grateful, and [livejournal.com profile] storydivagirl has got me thinking I should give Supernatural another chance. (I was just so-so on the premiere, only half paying attention to it, and haven't come back.)

But if I never watch Supernatural again, I wouldn't presume to complain that you're talking about it. It's your journal, and my friends list is not a forum in which "on topic" means only things that interest me. There are really people who think this way and expect others to change to suit them?

Date: 2005-10-13 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm the first to admit that Supernatural is cheese and that it tends to "borrow" horror stories from other places, but it's got that thing I love about writing Charmed Chris Fic. It's got brothers fighting side-by-side and all the angst to go with it. It's sort of how I envision Wyatt and Chris, if they were given their own show.

And honestly, lately, there have been quite a few of those complaining about all the posts on from their friends lists on certain things. It just boggles my mind.

Date: 2005-10-14 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nam-jai.livejournal.com
It was that very comparison to Chris and Wyatt that made me think I should try it again! Because from what I saw in the pilot, I could totally see what you mean. If we can't have that Halliwell spin-off ... Which may be just as well, if the good Wyatt we'd get would be the goody-two-shoes Wyatt of "Imaginary Fiends." I like the good Wyatt of my imagination better, where he's always on the edge, never really well-behaved. Is that what I'd find in Supernatural? (From what I saw of it, I gathered the Wyatt parallel would be the Jensen Ackles character?)

Date: 2005-10-13 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Me either. I tend to enjoy reading about new/different things and if I don't have time to scroll through a lot of posts on one particular thing I'm not really a part of? I just go past it. Not a big deal and it amazes me that people think it's okay to try to dictate that sort of thing to someone else.

Date: 2005-10-13 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piyo-halliwell.livejournal.com
I tend to have many interests and my fandoms come and go. I'm going going to push what I like on other people. Sure, it would be great if everyone enjoyed the same things, but that would be boring. I like knowing that a friend of mine may like Charmed, but not Fullmetal Alchemist.

Be an individual!

Date: 2005-10-13 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alliecat8.livejournal.com
It all goes back to the "is this a journal"/"is this a message board" issue. I have multiple personalities in this regard; some days my journal is a journal and I record events in my life there, some days it's a message board and I all I do is squee with my friends about Lost. And some days I'm influenced by said friends to try a new show, so I hope to download and catch up on Supernatural this weekend. ;)

I like the fact that LJ can be more than one thing at a time. I don't judge my friends for "journaling" about RL, nor do I get annoyed when they over-squee (LOL). I hate that not-so-subtle criticism you're talking about. If someone has something to say they should just say it outright, and if they choose not to do that they should shut up and move on.

Date: 2005-10-13 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
Exactly! And I think the reason people don't outright say it in regards to this issue? Is because you can't tell someone what to write about in his/her journal. And there's no rule that you have to keep anybody friended/read their stuff if it doesn't interest you.

Date: 2005-10-13 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunarknightz.livejournal.com
If you're marrying Supernatural, then I must be having a torrid affair with it behind your back :) It's my favorite new show of the season.

I always carry at least two books with me, and that Rory bookbag packing scene back in S1 of GG? Is so me.

Word on your rant on fandoms as well. My fandom obsessions ebb and wane (and right now most fic is going to involve either Smallville or Firefly, until I get these challenges done or until I decide to go even nuttier!) Most everyone's obsessions ebb and wane, so just as you said, scroll past and get over it. Geesh.

The flist has pimped me into fandoms that otherwise I wouldn't have tried- Veroncia Mars for one. And I've gotten a few people to watch Supernatural. People, sometimes, are just the silly.

Date: 2005-10-13 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] storydivagirl.livejournal.com
I guess you can have an affair, but try not to leave any bruises on Dean. He's too pretty for bruises! And it's my favorite show this year too - weirdly, it's the only one I find that I have to watch right when it's on rather than letting the Tivo get it. Go figure, especially since I didn't expect to like it at all.

Date: 2005-10-13 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsinger.livejournal.com
I'll second that Dear Supernatural letter. Oh, how I love thee.

And yes on the LJ theory. Your journal is your very own space; people choose to read it.

Hey Tommy

Date: 2005-10-14 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mttinkerbell.livejournal.com
There is no logical reason to try to sway your friends list by not-so-subtle whining in your journal about the overabundance of information on a show. Just get over it and move on. read someone else's journal instead, friend new people who still share your loves. It's just a position I can't support.

That statement right there is why I have seperate journals for everything. I kind of got the idea from you though. I mean with your regular journal and your writing journal. I just added work also because those people don't need to see either and if I keep my friends list on the work one I can read it at work. :-)

Alot of my friends list used to be into fan fiction but not so much anymore. The majority of them were into the boyband fiction. Now we've all drifted either away from the fan fiction or into different fandoms. So alot of us have either just a link to a story or a seperate journal for our stories so that people who chose to read them can.

I don't know what I am getting at or if I am just typing because I am bored and irratated at work but never the less this is opmk.

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